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E144: Biden targets Elon, BRICS challenges the West, Tiger hit piece & more


Episode Details
Channel

All-In Podcast

Published

9/1/2023

Episode Summary

In Episode 144 of the All-In Podcast, hosts Chamath Palihapitiya, Jason Calacanis, David Sacks, and David Friedberg analyze a broad range of geopolitical, technological, and economic developments. The conversation kicks off with a critique of the Biden Administration and the DOJ (Department of Justice) for allegedly targeting Elon Musk. They discuss ongoing federal investigations into Tesla regarding a glass house project and a lawsuit against SpaceX over its hiring practices, which conflict with Export controls. The hosts argue this is part of a broader political attack, noting how the administration previously elevated General Motors while ignoring Musk's contributions, and touching upon controversies involving Joe Biden and Hunter Biden's emails. The hosts also mention Chamath's viral 'man in the arena' tweet on Twitter (X), and touch on political and cultural developments like the rising poll numbers of Nikki Haley and Vivek Ramaswamy, as well as singer Oliver Anthony clarifying his song's message. A major portion of the episode focuses on the recent expansion of BRICS to include Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Argentina, Egypt, Ethiopia, and Iran, joining founding members Brazil, Russia, India, and China. Sacks presents data showing that BRICS now surpasses the G7 in terms of Purchasing Power Parity and controls a massive share of global energy resources, drawing comparisons to an OPEC+ integration. This geopolitical shift is largely driven by a desire for Economic Sovereignty and De-dollarization, accelerated by the Weaponization of the US Dollar and heavy Sanctions that led to the seizure of Russian Foreign Reserves and exclusion from the Swift network. Consequently, nations are seeking alternatives to the US Dollar. Furthermore, China's strategic use of the Belt and Road Initiative and its aggressive scaling of Nuclear Power—alongside India turning on its own domestic reactor—highlights the shifting global balance. Friedberg emphasizes that Solar Energy also plays a key role in the changing energy landscape. On the financial side, the hosts dismiss a leaked hit piece aimed at Tiger Global and its executives Chase Coleman and Scott Shleifer as a disgruntled employee's smear campaign. Finally, Calacanis previews the upcoming All-In Summit, highlighting corporate sponsors like House of Macadamias, I connections, and Cooley, and noting that the musician Grimes will be performing at the event.

Investment Ideas
2 ideas
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The All-In Podcast hosts discuss the Biden administration's alleged targeting of Elon Musk through various investigations, contrasting it with their support for traditional industries. A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to the expansion of BRICS, highlighting its growing economic and geopolitical influence relative to the G7, driven by a desire for economic sovereignty and de-dollarization. The hosts also touch upon a leaked document targeting Tiger Global, dismissing it as a disgruntled employee's smear campaign.

Portfolio lens: A basket of ideas focused on the shifting global geopolitical and economic landscape, with a particular emphasis on challenges to US dollar dominance and the implications of regulatory scrutiny on key technology companies.

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BRICS Expansion and De-dollarization Trend
Medium confidence
Macro
Time horizon: Long-term, as the shift in global economic power and de-dollarization efforts are multi-year trends.
Thesis

The expansion of BRICS and its increasing share of global GDP and commodity production signals a significant shift in global economic power away from the G7, driven by a desire for economic sovereignty and a reduction in US dollar dependency.

Rationale

The episode details the addition of six new members to BRICS, increasing its population and GDP share significantly. The hosts discuss the bloc's control over global oil production and food production, and their stated goal of settling trades in local currencies to bypass the dollar complex.

Evidence
  • BRICS added six new members: Saudi Arabia, UAE, Argentina, Egypt, Ethiopia, and Iran.
  • New BRICS makes up almost 50% of the global population with a third of GDP.
  • New BRICS now have 54% of global oil production.
  • Five of the world's six biggest food producers are now part of BRICS.
  • BRICS has a five to 10 year goal of allowing members to settle trades in local currencies.
  • The motivation is to break the Petro dollar Monopoly and create independence from the US dollar complex.
  • The weaponization of the US dollar and sanctions have been a big driver for this.
Catalysts
  • Further expansion of BRICS with countries like Venezuela, Algeria, and Kazakhstan.
  • Successful implementation of local currency settlements for trade between BRICS nations.
  • Increased geopolitical instability or perceived US overreach that further alienates nations from the dollar.
  • Development of alternative payment systems or reserve currencies by BRICS nations.
Risks
  • Internal rivalries and lack of legislative coordination among BRICS members (e.g., China-India border dispute).
  • The track record of BRICS organizations (like the IDB) has been poor with little accomplishment.
  • The US dollar's continued dominance in global trade and finance, as evidenced by record SWIFT volumes in USD.
  • The significant differences in political systems and ideals among BRICS members (authoritarian vs. democratic).
  • The practical complexity of creating a viable alternative currency framework.
Next Diligence
  • Track the trade volumes settled in local currencies between BRICS nations.
  • Monitor the economic performance and policy coordination of new BRICS members.
  • Analyze the impact of BRICS expansion on global commodity prices and trade flows.
  • Assess the development and adoption of alternative payment systems.
BRICS
G7
OPEC+
US Dollar
Saudi Arabia
UAE
Argentina
Egypt
Ethiopia
Iran
Brazil
Russia
India
China
South Africa
SWIFT
Belt and Road Initiative
Government Scrutiny of Elon Musk's Companies
Medium confidence
Public Equity
Time horizon: Short to Medium-term, as investigations and their immediate fallout can impact stock performance and operational focus.
Thesis

The Biden administration's investigations into Tesla and SpaceX, framed as politically motivated, could create regulatory headwinds and distract from the companies' core operations and growth.

Rationale

The hosts express concern that the DOJ and other government bodies are disproportionately targeting Elon Musk's ventures with investigations into issues like a 'glass house' project for Tesla and hiring practices at SpaceX, suggesting a 'Jihad against Elon'.

Evidence
  • The administration is investigating Elon Musk for a supposedly Tesla-built glass house, which Musk denies.
  • A lawsuit against SpaceX over its hiring practices, alleging it screened out foreign nationals and didn't hire enough refugees and asylum seekers.
  • The DOJ's suit against SpaceX is based on a 'clarification' issued in April that they are making retroactive to 2008.
  • The hosts believe the administration's actions stem from Musk's acquisition of Twitter (X) and his stance on free speech.
  • Biden previously elevated GM while seemingly ignoring Musk's contributions to the EV sector.
Catalysts
  • Further investigations or regulatory actions against Tesla or SpaceX.
  • Negative press or public perception stemming from these investigations.
  • Changes in administration or regulatory bodies that could alter the scrutiny.
  • Potential fines or legal settlements impacting company resources.
Risks
  • The investigations may be legitimate and uncover actual wrongdoing, leading to significant penalties.
  • Elon Musk's public statements and actions could further antagonize regulators.
  • The companies may face operational disruptions or increased compliance costs due to ongoing scrutiny.
  • The 'glass house' and hiring practice issues might be valid concerns, despite the hosts' skepticism.
  • The political motivations alleged by the hosts may not be the sole or primary drivers of the investigations.
Next Diligence
  • Review the specific allegations and legal filings in the DOJ lawsuits against SpaceX.
  • Examine Tesla's disclosures regarding any 'glass house' projects or related expenses.
  • Track any public statements or actions by the Biden administration regarding Elon Musk's companies.
  • Analyze the financial and operational impact of these investigations on Tesla and SpaceX.
Elon Musk
Tesla
SpaceX
Biden Administration
DOJ (Department of Justice)
Twitter (X)
General Motors
Watchlist
  • BRICS trade settlement volumes in local currencies
  • New BRICS member economic performance
  • Regulatory actions against Tesla and SpaceX
  • US Dollar's share in global trade settlement
  • Developments in alternative payment systems
Open Questions
  • What is the true extent of political motivation behind the investigations into Elon Musk's companies?
  • Can BRICS nations overcome internal geopolitical tensions to achieve meaningful policy coordination?
  • What are the specific mechanisms BRICS nations will use to facilitate local currency trade settlements?
  • How will the US respond strategically to the growing economic influence of BRICS?
  • What is the long-term viability of non-dollar denominated trade for major global economies?
Key Topics & People
SpaceX
SpaceX
Organization

Aerospace manufacturer and space transport services company.

Elon Musk
Elon Musk
Person

CEO of SpaceX, referenced for his use of the attention economy on Twitter.

Host of the All-In Podcast and angel investor.

Host of the All-In Podcast and venture capitalist.

Host of the All-In Podcast, venture capitalist, and early Facebook executive.

All-In Podcast
Organization

A popular technology and business podcast where industry leaders discuss startups, economy, and global events.

Venture capitalist and co-host of the All-In Podcast who attended and helped shape the White House AI safety accord.

Twitter (X)
Organization

The social network owned by Elon Musk.

Joe Biden
Joe Biden
Person

Current US President whose administration members are quoted criticizing Javier Becerra.

China
China
PoliticalEntity

Mentioned as the destination where older American manufacturing was lost.

Biden Administration
PoliticalEntity

The current US administration that issued an executive order lifting the supersonic ban.

Nuclear Power
Technology

A key propulsion and energy technology being revitalized by NASA for deep space missions.

Russia
Russia
PoliticalEntity

Partnering with China to build a nuclear-powered moon base despite ongoing terrestrial conflicts.

Brazil
Brazil
Location

Country where Shirley investigated dangerous favelas.

An annual conference hosted by the All-In Podcast where industry leaders and guests present on tech, business, and politics.

General Motors
General Motors
Organization

An American automotive manufacturer seeking to hire talent out of Meta's workforce academy.

Iran
Iran
PoliticalEntity

Nation causing disruption to global energy markets and commercial shipping.

Tesla
Organization

Electric vehicle and clean energy company heavily investing in robotics, self-driving hardware, and chip manufacturing.

The US federal executive department reportedly investigating Andreessen Horowitz.

Solar Energy
Technology

A renewable energy source being actively scaled to eventually shoulder the long-term energy burdens of AI data centers.

Republican presidential candidate praised for his stance against victimhood.

Artist who wrote and performed the viral hit song addressing the working class.

A Republican candidate who had a strong showing in the debate, especially regarding foreign policy and holding the GOP accountable on spending.

Grimes
Person

Musician and artist scheduled to DJ at the cyberpunk-themed rave during the All-In Summit.

Government regulations restricting the international transfer of advanced technology, specifically high-capability AI models.

Cooley
Organization

A major law firm that built a software platform to serve startup founders directly.

India
India
PoliticalEntity

A country experiencing a flight of top scientific talent.

The fiat currency of the United States, currently facing significant debasement risks due to massive federal debt.

Son of Joe Biden, mentioned in the context of presidential pardons and corporate board compensation.

Saudi Arabia
Saudi Arabia
PoliticalEntity

Major economic power in the Middle East whose public markets experienced recent downturns affecting capital availability.

UAE
UAE
PoliticalEntity

A Gulf country identified as a successful case study of rapid economic and infrastructural modernization.

I connections
Organization

A sponsor of the All-In Summit that provides the event's coordination app.

A South African snack company that sponsored the All-In Summit, offering custom salt and vinegar flavors.

Founder and leader of Tiger Global who was defended by Chamath regarding the leaked hit piece.

Executive at Tiger Global who was allegedly targeted in a leaked smear document.

Tiger Global
Organization

A prominent investment firm targeted by a leaked, fake expose supposedly written by a disgruntled former employee.

The motivation for countries joining BRICS to avoid dependency on US economic policies and sanctions.

Purchasing Power Parity
ScientificConcept

An economic metric used to compare economic productivity and standards of living between countries, showcasing BRICS' rising economic dominance.

National financial assets, specifically regarding the US seizing Russia's reserves, which triggered fears in the Global South.

Swift
Organization

The global financial messaging network from which countries like Russia were expelled, motivating alternative payment systems.

Economic penalties placed on countries like Russia and Iran, driving them to seek alternative financial systems.

The use of the US Dollar and its financial systems by the US government to impose sanctions and coerce foreign nations.

Egypt
Egypt
Location

A North African country included in the new expansion of the BRICS block.

Ethiopia
Ethiopia
Location

An East African country admitted as a new member to the BRICS coalition.

G7
G7
Organization

The bloc of wealthy Western democracies whose share of global GDP is shrinking relative to the expanded BRICS.

China's massive global infrastructure development strategy to secure trade routes and exert geopolitical influence.

OPEC+
Organization

The oil cartel whose strategic interests are increasingly overlapping with the BRICS expansion.

The global trend of countries seeking alternatives to the US Dollar for international trade and reserves.

Argentina
Argentina
PoliticalEntity

A South American country invited to join the BRICS alliance as part of its recent expansion.

BRICS
BRICS
PoliticalEntity

An intergovernmental organization originally comprising Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa that has expanded to include new members to challenge Western unipolarity.