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Elon’s Anthropic Deal, The Next AI Monopoly?, “FDA for AI” Panic, Trading the AI Boom


Episode Details
Channel

All-In Podcast

Published

5/8/2026

Episode Summary

The recent episode of the All-In Podcast features Chamath Palihapitiya, David Sacks, Jason Calacanis, and Brad Gerstner discussing major geopolitical and tech shifts. The conversation starts with local politics, noting Spencer Pratt gaining traction against Karen Bass in the LA mayoral race. Jason Calacanis also mentions the controversy where Zohran Mamdani targeted the home of Ken Griffin. The primary tech discussion revolves around Elon Musk and SpaceX executing a massive compute deal with anthropic, led by Dario Amodei. By leasing Colossus to anthropic, Elon Musk introduces EWS (Elon Web Services) as a direct competitor to hyperscalers like AWS, Azure, and Google Cloud. This deal provides the Data Centers and Blackwell GPUs necessary to train Claude and compete against OpenAI and their new model, Spud. Simultaneously, it subsidizes xAI to train Grok and form partnerships with companies like Cursor. David Sacks argues that anthropic's exponential growth makes it the fastest-growing monopoly, comparing it to John D. Rockefeller, while noting that older tech giants like Apple, run by Tim Cook, lack this explosive innovation. The hosts also address the White House and US Government considering an FDA for AI as a form of AI Regulation to enforce AI Safety. This was triggered by advanced models like Mythos which raised concerns about Cybersecurity in the AI era. Officials like Kevin Hasset and Scott Bessent weigh in on hardening defenses, and Bernie Sanders supports strict regulations, but Donald Trump is expected to favor a pro-innovation approach. Both David Sacks and Brad Gerstner strongly oppose this proposed FDA for AI. Lastly, the hosts analyze the broader macro environment. Despite concerns, there is an ongoing Capex Boom discussed by Chamath Palihapitiya, driven by hardware giants like Nvidia and memory makers like SK Hynix and Micron. This massive infrastructure spend is fueling a broader Economic boom, benefiting ad giants like Meta. Meanwhile, Jason Calacanis advocates for shifting the focus toward solving societal issues through tech-driven Universal Healthcare and raising the Minimum wage, pointing out how innovations like SPAN and the Tesla Powerwall by Tesla can revolutionize local infrastructure.

Investment Ideas
2 ideas
1 high confidence
1 medium confidence

The episode explores the emergence of a massive AI infrastructure boom, centered on the strategic compute partnership between Elon Musk's EWS (Elon Web Services) and Anthropic. The hosts discuss the potential for this infrastructure to drive a long-term economic expansion while debating the risks of regulatory overreach, such as a proposed 'FDA for AI,' and the shifting competitive landscape among hyperscalers.

Portfolio lens: AI infrastructure and hardware-focused growth basket with a macro hedge on regulatory policy.

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EWS (Elon Web Services) Hyperscaler Expansion
high confidence
Sector Theme
Time horizon: medium, as the infrastructure build-out and revenue recognition occur over the next 1-3 years.
Thesis

Elon Musk is successfully pivoting his massive data center infrastructure into a viable hyperscaler business, creating a new revenue stream that subsidizes his AI development.

Rationale

The deal between SpaceX/xAI and Anthropic demonstrates that Musk's massive compute capacity (Colossus, Macro hard, Macro harder) can be monetized to solve industry-wide supply constraints, effectively challenging AWS, Azure, and Google Cloud.

Evidence
  • Anthropic added over 220,000 Nvidia GPUs and 300 megawatts of energy through the deal.
  • The deal provides immediate revenue to offset the high capex of xAI's model training.
  • Musk's core competency in building massive factories translates directly to the physical requirements of modern data centers.
Catalysts
  • Future partnership announcements with other AI frontier labs.
  • Integration of compute capacity into distributed edge devices like Tesla Powerwalls.
  • Successful scaling of the 'Macro hard' and 'Macro harder' facilities.
Risks
  • Potential for regulatory scrutiny regarding market concentration.
  • Execution risks in managing a hyperscaler service versus internal model training.
  • Competitive response from established cloud giants.
Next Diligence
  • Monitor public filings for revenue growth in non-traditional cloud segments.
  • Track energy procurement and data center construction permits in Texas and other key regions.
  • Analyze the competitive pricing of EWS versus traditional hyperscalers.
Elon Musk
SpaceX
xAI
Anthropic
Nvidia
AWS
Azure
Google Cloud
AI Infrastructure and Memory Hardware Basket
medium confidence
Public Equity
Time horizon: medium, tracking the 500-day window for AI ROI realization mentioned in the episode.
Thesis

The sustained Capex boom in AI infrastructure provides a durable tailwind for hardware and memory manufacturers despite concerns over AI model profitability.

Rationale

The episode highlights that the current economic growth is heavily driven by massive infrastructure spending, with memory makers and hardware giants serving as the foundational layer for AI compute.

Evidence
  • Hyperscaler revenue growth (AWS, Azure, GCP) remains strong.
  • Memory stocks like SK Hynix, Samsung, and Micron are trading at low earnings multiples relative to their growth.
  • The 'Capex boom' is fueling broader economic activity, including construction and blue-collar wage growth.
Catalysts
  • Quarterly earnings reports showing continued high-margin growth for memory and GPU suppliers.
  • Expansion of AI-driven productivity gains in enterprise software.
  • Continued demand for Blackwell GPU clusters.
Risks
  • Cyclical nature of the semiconductor and memory industry.
  • Potential for a 'reckoning moment' if enterprise ROI on AI tokens does not materialize within 2-3 years.
  • Geopolitical risks affecting supply chains.
Next Diligence
  • Evaluate the durability of operating margin expansion in the S&P 500.
  • Monitor enterprise software adoption rates and coding token usage.
  • Compare hardware capex trends against actual productivity metrics in global GDP.
Nvidia
SK Hynix
Micron
Samsung
Watchlist
  • SK Hynix
  • Micron
  • Samsung
  • Nvidia
  • Anthropic
  • OpenAI
  • Tesla
  • SPAN
Open Questions
  • Will the ROI on AI tokens become measurable in enterprise operating margins within the next 500 days?
  • How will the regulatory environment evolve regarding 'KYC' for frontier AI model access?
  • Can the US government successfully harden systems against AI-enabled cyber threats without stifling innovation?
  • To what extent is current corporate margin expansion driven by AI versus traditional financial engineering?
Key Topics & People
Elon Musk
Elon Musk
Person

CEO of Tesla and SpaceX, referenced regarding Walter Isaacson's upcoming biography.

Founder of Altimeter Capital, crossover investor, and guest on the podcast.

Host on the All-In Podcast who was absent during this episode.

Host on the All-In Podcast, software investor, and venture capitalist.

Host and moderator of the All-In Podcast.

Nvidia
Nvidia
Organization

Leading tech company that Dan Loeb is currently buying stock in.

Former US President facing a fourth indictment.

SpaceX
SpaceX
Organization

An aerospace manufacturer that operated the crew 6 mission to the ISS.

Meta
Meta
Organization

The parent company of Facebook, heavily involved in open-sourcing hardware designs and AI models.

OpenAI
OpenAI
Organization

An AI research and deployment company that created ChatGPT.

Tesla
Organization

An electric vehicle and AI company building massive supercomputers for physical world inference.

Apple
Apple
Organization

A major technology company that brought its chip architecture in-house to optimize for its own product needs.

Prominent socialist politician jokingly referenced in association with the DSA grocery store movement.

A socialist politician pushing for subsidized, city-owned grocery stores in New York City.

CEO of Anthropic, criticized for allegedly seeking an FDA-like regulatory moat for AI.

anthropic
Organization

A leading AI company facing scrutiny for shredding physical books and aggressively lobbying for AI regulation.

Micron
Organization

American producer of computer memory, included in the major semiconductor index that saw a recent crash.

SK Hynix
SK Hynix
Organization

South Korean semiconductor supplier of dynamic random-access memory chips, affected by the tech downturn.

Billionaire hedge fund manager and founder of Citadel.

Claude
Technology

An AI language model created by Anthropic, mentioned as a potential intelligence engine for robots.

Grok
Grok
Technology

The AI model developed by xAI, noted for being tested alongside other open models.

White House
White House
PoliticalEntity

The administration of the US President, currently testing policies on AI regulation.

Mentioned as an example of a talented Republican candidate struggling in heavily Democratic California races.

A politician who ran in the Los Angeles election against Nithya Raman.

Cursor
Organization

An AI-powered code editor whose success prompted Anthropic to vertically integrate and launch a competing coding assistant.

The practice of securing AI models against misuse, bugs, and cyber threats

AWS
Organization

Amazon's cloud computing division aggressively expanding data centers

Large scale facilities housing computer systems, currently experiencing massive demand

xAI
Organization

Elon Musk's AI company, developing the Grok model.

Tim Cook
Tim Cook
Person

CEO of Apple, who approved the litigation against OpenAI.

The emerging political and industry frameworks intended to control AI development and deployment.

The intersection of AI capabilities and cybersecurity, raising concerns about automated vulnerabilities.

Mythos
Technology

Anthropic's powerful foundation AI model, controversially described by its CEO as a cyber weapon.

Colossus
Colossus
Technology

Elon Musk's massive AI hardware computing cluster utilized by Cursor for model training.

Azure
Technology

Microsoft's cloud platform, historically OpenAI's sole CSP partner.

Google Cloud
Organization

Google's suite of cloud computing services that AI pure-plays have outscaled in specific sectors.

A nickname for the emerging business of renting out compute power from Elon Musk's massive data centers.

The massive surge in capital expenditures by tech companies to build AI capabilities.

SPAN
Organization

Company placing mini data centers in homes with smart power panels.

Historical monopolist used by David Sacks as an analogy for Anthropic.

Tesla Powerwall
Tesla Powerwall
Technology

Home battery systems potentially hosting distributed AI computing.

Proposed regulatory framework to vet new AI models before release.

Current period of high GDP growth, market highs, and strong labor participation driven by tech.

Economic policy suggested to boost consumer spending by raising the baseline wage.

Concept proposed to alleviate financial anxiety for everyday Americans.

Spud
Technology

New base model developed by OpenAI powering advanced coding capabilities.

Blackwell GPUs
Technology

Next-generation Nvidia chips used for massive AI computing tasks.

US Government
PoliticalEntity

Federal authority balancing AI innovation with cybersecurity regulations.

Official discussing the balance between innovation and safety in AI.

Director of the National Economic Council who commented on a potential AI review process.