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Tulsi Gabbard on Russiagate Hoax Evidence and How She’s Reforming Politicized Intelligence Agencies


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All-In Podcast

Published

9/15/2025

Episode Summary

In an extensive interview on the All-In Podcast, Tulsi Gabbard, serving as Director of National Intelligence under President Donald Trump, laid out her case for the existence of a Russiagate Hoax. She claims this was a deliberate campaign of Politicized Intelligence designed to undermine Trump's presidency following his victory over Hillary Clinton in the 2016 US Presidential Election. According to Gabbard, the effort was orchestrated by the outgoing Obama Administration, with key figures like DNI James Clapper, CIA Director John Brennan, and FBI Director James Comey at the helm. She alleges they reversed the Intelligence Community's initial assessment—which found no evidence of Russia or its leader Vladimir Putin impacting the election outcome—by ordering a new assessment to prove interference. This involved leveraging unreliable sources like the Steel Dossier, which the CIA's own officials reportedly questioned, and launching the FBI's Crossfire Hurricane investigation, which used illegal warrants from the FISA court. Gabbard highlighted the resistance from then-NSA head Mike Rogers, who refused to endorse the assessment without proper vetting. She compares this event to the flawed Iraq War Intelligence that was allegedly manufactured under pressure from Vice President Dick Cheney. As head of the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI), Gabbard is declassifying documents and has referred the findings to the Department of Justice (DOJ) to ensure accountability. The discussion also covered her political evolution, from leaving a Democratic Party she finds unrecognizable to campaigning for Trump alongside Bobby Kennedy, and the mixed reception she receives in her home state of Hawaii. On national security, she defended the administration's precise military strike against Iran, known as Operation Midnight Hammer, and its aggressive stance on the Southern Border, which includes designating Drug Cartels as terrorist organizations to combat the devastating Fentanyl crisis, a problem exacerbated by precursor chemicals originating from China. The initial allegations that fueled the hoax, such as a meeting involving Donald Trump Jr., were also touched upon as part of the broader fabricated narrative.

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All-In Podcast
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US President who announced the brokering of a comprehensive Middle Eastern peace deal.

Iran
Iran
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Middle Eastern nation at the center of a major geopolitical peace deal involving the surrender of nuclear material.

China
China
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Country producing competitive open source AI models.

A severe drug epidemic that both senators have collaboratively worked to mitigate in Pennsylvania.

Democratic Party
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The political party of Senator Fetterman, which he critiques for shifting too far left and prioritizing outrage politics.

Russia
Russia
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A country involved in a geopolitical conflict that has strained supply chains and accelerated global inflation.

Political figure who received a shoutout at the end of the podcast, extending well wishes to her and her husband.

A military operation in Iran that was supposed to decisively end the conflict but has instead escalated.

CIA
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US intelligence agency that briefed tech leaders on a potential Taiwan invasion.

FBI
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The Federal Bureau of Investigation, discussed regarding its controversial involvement in moderating American social media accounts.

The federal executive department responsible for law enforcement, criticized for allegedly politicized prosecutions.

President of Russia who initiated the invasion of Ukraine and is discussed as the primary driver of the conflict.

The US-Mexico border experiencing record numbers of migrant encounters.

Former US President described as an intellectual outlier, highly composed, and an excellent statesman.

Collaborated with the Department of Commerce on the pharmaceutical pricing strategy. His team led the negotiations while Howard Lutnick provided the 'hammer' of potential tariffs.

The presidential administration from 2009-2017, which Bessent characterizes as a period of very poor economic growth where asset owners accumulated wealth while others did not.

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The National Security Agency. OpenAI's move to add the former head of the NSA to its board is seen as a strategic play to become part of the 'establishment' and align with the US government apparatus.

Hawaii
Hawaii
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Tulsi Gabbard's home state, where she served as a congresswoman. She notes it is a strong Democratic state but that she receives a mixed but often positive reception there.

Son of Donald Trump, mentioned in the interview as having met with Russians at Trump Tower, which contributed to the narrative of collusion.

Former Vice President of the United States who, according to James Clapper's own book, pressured the intelligence community to produce intelligence that would justify the war in Iraq.

The presidential election in which Donald Trump defeated Hillary Clinton. The Russiagate narrative was created to undermine the outcome of this election.

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Criminal organizations, primarily based in Mexico, that were designated as foreign terrorist organizations by the Trump administration due to their violent activities, trafficking of fentanyl, and impact on U.S. national security.

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Former head of the National Security Agency who resisted pressure from DNI James Clapper to approve the intelligence assessment on Russian meddling without proper vetting.

A controversial private intelligence report containing allegations of conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russia, which Gabbard describes as a 'manufactured political document that was filled with falsehoods' and was used as a source for the official intelligence assessment.

The U.S. government office that oversees the Intelligence Community, currently led by Tulsi Gabbard. She has used this position to declassify documents and reform the agency.

Director of the CIA under President Obama. He is accused of using non-credible sources like the Steele Dossier to create the Russiagate intelligence assessment and hiding these sources from Congress.

The code name for the FBI's counterintelligence investigation into links between Russian officials and associates of Donald Trump's campaign.

Director of National Intelligence under President Obama. Gabbard accuses him of pressuring the NSA to sign off on the manufactured intelligence assessment and of previously admitting to creating intelligence that 'wasn't there' for the Iraq War.

The 2016 Democratic nominee for President. Gabbard states that Clinton 'seated the allegation' of collusion between Trump and Russia during the campaign.

Former Director of the FBI during the 2016 election. He is implicated by Gabbard as one of the key figures who manufactured the Russiagate narrative.

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The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, which was allegedly misled by the FBI to grant warrants for illegally surveilling American citizens associated with the Trump campaign.

A political narrative and series of investigations alleging collusion between Donald Trump's 2016 presidential campaign and the Russian government. Gabbard describes it as a 'hoax' founded on manufactured, politicized intelligence.

The manipulation of intelligence gathering, analysis, and reporting to favor a specific political outcome or narrative, rather than providing objective truth. Gabbard cites this as a major threat to the republic.

A coalition of 17 U.S. government agencies and organizations that work to gather intelligence information. Gabbard asserts that there is deep 'rot' within the community due to politicization.